@iiinkos what do you mean not much on his personality... to make this short: the way he dies is pandering to the common fanon of stupid rich capitalist Jonah. when he is simply not one. this death follows the idea of him mistreating his workers when he doesn't. the only ones who get mistreated are the *current Archives staff* but that wasn't because he's against workers' rights. it also shows him as kind of stupid, that he was killed like that. with his canonical fear of death, it doesn't make sense for him to not take precautions against it. another thing that was stupid of him was marking the Institute as "Other" attracting unnecessary attention, when he could have just. called it a research institute that it is. you can clearly see his personality being warped after second half of s5, going from a shrewd, cunning antagonist to just. an incompetent stupid villain that the fandom imagines him to be. which to be clear is inaccurate

@kairos-polaris I could keep going

@iiinkos it doesn't matter if "other" is accurate or not, what matters is that it attracts attention from the government that you wouldn't want when running an Institute dedicated to alchemy. it also doesn't matter if it was normal to exploit workers and whether Jonah would partake in that because there is nothing to suggest that in canon. oh he is very much played for incompetent idiot in s5 with the Web reveal that meant actually he doesn't get the credit for the ritual, it was all thanks to the Web. in addition to Jonny explicitly saying that his death was meant to be humiliating. but what I meant was the writers shifting the narratives to fit the wants of the fandom causing characterization to suffer. protocol itself a fanservice fest. the problem with that is that this kind of depiction is not only in line with the fanon but also will be used when talking about Archives!Jonah. something *you* are doing. if you are going to say that we can't know his motives since it's a different version of him (and we do know his desire to learn despite the cost it may present to others) then you can't be turning around and saying that he got beat up by "Melanie's past lives". also I think it kind of doesn't make sense comparing unsafe working conditions in a mill and a research institution dedicated to the paranormal. and also there were still people very much. not traumatized, like the library department

I wish they'd remember he is a character beyond the charicature

I would be on the news

@naamah-beherit yes! I wouldn't have a problem with it if I didn't know they wouldn't base their understanding of Archives Jonah on it (well I would still be upset but yknow). it's the same they did with og Elias, using Protocol Elias to characterize Archives Elias (which I should have taken as a sign of the direction they are going in)

I wouldn't if people wouldn't post character hate in the character tag ☺️

@kairos-polaris also I wasn't even hating on the show? I was hating on the writing choice to pander to fanon over properly characterising their character